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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 23 2014, 08:46 PM (1,941 Views) | |
| + Steve | Feb 23 2014, 08:46 PM Post #1 |
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Yamamoto has both his arms and Aizen can't evolve past the Monster stage. I don't know why I've never thought of this match up, what if Wonderweiss was never created, could Yama have beaten Aizen in his later forms? |
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| + Steve | Feb 26 2014, 01:36 AM Post #16 |
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Yeah it wouldn't break the Hogyoko but if Yama mostly burned away Aizen's body I doubt it would consider him worthy since he basically just got defeated the only thing that would be saving him is the regen it gave him. Assuming Juha isn't as strong as Aizen but at least half(as powerful as Lloyd...whatever gets him) then Aizen's blade might not instantly get cut up but it wouldn't take many hits. Aizen's physical strength is great but so is Yama's durability he can take multiple hits from Wonderweiss who one shotted Ukitake and Shunsui and just be like "lol" so I doubt one hit would kill him ever plus if Yama has to touch him to kill him that goes both ways if Aizen touches him he'd be burnt lots. I think most Kido techniques aren't exactly based on the users strength you just need to be of a certain strength to use them so when Aizen says 1/3 of the power the 3/3 is as powerful as that technique can get. Plus if Ichigo can slap that away with physical strength Yama's Bankai could most surely burn it to nothing like all other things. |
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| + miguelnuva | Feb 27 2014, 08:30 AM Post #17 |
 
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Soul Reapers can't really interact with a true Transcendent but then Gin was able to hurt Aizen so I say Monster Aizen is needed to win. |
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| + Steve | Feb 27 2014, 11:11 AM Post #18 |
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Yeah, unless Gin or Gin's Bankai > Yama he can clearly be hurt and by someone so much more powerful than Gin obviously it would do a lot. Other than Dangai Ichigo Yamamoto is probably the only one strong enough to win that is why his Zanpakuto was sealed his Bankai would have made the difference. Kyouka Suigetsu is worthless if Yama just destroys everything. |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 27 2014, 11:15 AM Post #19 |
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You've answered your own question. Soul Reapers can't interact with TRUE Transcendent. Aizen wasn't a complete/true Transcendent. He said he's a true one when he became Butterfly. Butterfly Aizen wins. |
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| + Steve | Feb 27 2014, 11:31 AM Post #20 |
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All that means is that he's at a higher plane than any Soul Reaper could naturally get to not that he's untouchable, the fact that Ichigo beats him just by learning a technique over 3 months shows that. Yamamoto is the pinnacle that a Soul Reaper could naturally get to, nothing goes higher than that Aizen is just a bit above, somewhere Yama could never reach. But that's just their base physical strength and reiatsu that are far apart Yama's Bankai gets him up there especially since Aizen couldn't use his. |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 27 2014, 11:46 AM Post #21 |
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That's because Ichigo trained beyond the Shinigami's natural limits. Also we can say that Aizen was lowering his Reiatsu, and that's what he did. |
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| + miguelnuva | Feb 27 2014, 11:46 AM Post #22 |
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Aizen transcended all Soul Reapers and Ichigo Transcended Aizen. Aizen couldn't interact with Dangai Ichigo and Bankai Yama might do the same to Butterfly Aizen. Aizen wanted Yama sealed in till he could become transcended. |
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| Tensa Zangetsu | Feb 27 2014, 02:05 PM Post #23 |
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Then what made you say Renji > Monster Aizen? He isn't a transcedent. |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 27 2014, 02:41 PM Post #24 |
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Due to his statement earlier in the Fullbring Arc. I don't think Kubo would trash that statement. Renji also didn't give it his all, so he probably has more things up his sleeve. Also you said Rukia and Renji were Transcendent. |
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| + Steve | Feb 27 2014, 05:23 PM Post #25 |
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Transcendent doesn't mean unbeatable, Yama's Bankai wouldn't just be stopped by being more powerful than Yama himself it's still gonna burn whoever he's fighting just maybe not in one blow. His body might not be transcendent level but his Bankai certainly reaches that realm. Also worth noting that Gin's Bankai basically killed him, even if he was caught off guard he still got hurt by the poison from someone much much weaker than Yamamoto. If Gin's Bankai can pierce pre-Butterfly Aizen then Yama's Bankai with the heat in the tip or edge could certainly do the same. |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 27 2014, 05:59 PM Post #26 |
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Gin isn't much much weaker than Yamamoto. He's certainly strong, and not that weak. Aizen was only hurt because he wasn't a complete Transcendent, and AIZEN LOWERED HIS REIATSU TO SHINIGAMI LEVEL. Sorry for the caps.... |
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| Tensa Zangetsu | Feb 27 2014, 07:59 PM Post #27 |
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I was obviously trolling lol. I just wanted to bait more people after that monster thread you created  Btw Kubo was obviously referring to base Aizen because Renji had never seen Monster Aizen's power (he was in HM back then). |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 27 2014, 08:43 PM Post #28 |
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But it's ridiculous to mean that Renji needs his Bankai to beat BASE Aizen. For the sake of this thread, he effortlessly caught an attack 10x the power needed to oneshot Current Bankai Kensei with his bare hand. That's easily Yamamoto level. |
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| + miguelnuva | Feb 27 2014, 09:00 PM Post #29 |
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If Yama's Bankai was being since he is not transcended. Bankai Yama is the strongest one can become without being transcended unless Ichigo shows up with his new powers and isn't transcended. |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 28 2014, 03:26 AM Post #30 |
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Current Ichigo in base is a strong enough to affect the planet. He's surely Transcendent level in base. |
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